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ishita on May 11th, 2008 at 8:52 pm |
i find it difficult to believe that an “enthusiast” of history and literature, finds classic american literature “dull” and “lifeless”.In that case, contemprorary american literature would also be characterised as the above mentioned as it is heavily influenced by these classic writers. To so term it, one is ignoring the immense contribution, the fluid writing, the brilliant ideas of novelists such as Saul Bellow, William Faulkner and Truman capote to name a few. Also i would like to point out that Harper Lee was heavily influenced by Faulkner and Capote. Literature does indirectly reflect the history, politics and the social setting of a particular society. Maybe the author of this article did not intend it to be, but as a student of literature it just seems out of place when someone appreciates Harper Lee while in the same breath does not acknowledge her predecessors, and it points either to ignorance or someone who has read almost everything that belongs to the genre of american literature. My intention is not to slander the author but to understand the reason for the author labelling a particular category of literature as such.
Aishwarya on May 14th, 2008 at 2:12 am |
I’m not labelling it anything. If you’ll notice I use the words dull and lifeless merely to express my OWN opinion; I’m not trying to say only Lee was a good writer and the rest were trash. What may be fascinating for one person is boring for the next. No doubt there have been other brilliant writers, but then literature is so subjective; just as I cannot label any particular genre dull, neither can you label it otherwise. I was just trying to convey my appreciation for the book, showing what a great hold it has on me even though I am not a fan of the group it belongs to. My article does not malign classic American literature in any way; in fact, it is intended to praise this particular American classic. I’m sure Harper Lee was influenced by her predecessors (which writer isn’t?) but the fact still remains that I find her novel much more absorbing than their works. I cannot think of a single book, movie, even restaurant that is universally liked. Dissidents exist in every field, which is why we have a whole seperate section for Opinion; if everyone had the same opinion, this would be a singularly uninteresting website. =)
Also, I don’t perceive what connection being a student of a particular subject has to actually liking everything that subject comprises? I am sure a student of religion does not agree with or admire the teachings of each and every religion he or she studies. Why then should it be necessary for a student of literature to like American classics? Once again, everybody is entitled to their own opinions.
Vineet on May 14th, 2008 at 1:38 pm |
What beats me here is, when you were indeed watching the movie, and it is indeed one of the *best* there is, why would you want to compare it to the book?
Also, if you indeed didn’t like the movie, why waste precious newsprint, time and keystrokes panning a 1962 movie that is critically acclaimed?
Questions, questions. Anyhoo, to me this sounds like a case of “I don’t like it because I am different.”
Just my two cents, they’re free.
Aishwarya on May 14th, 2008 at 3:52 pm |
Why would I compare it to the book? Because it’s based on the book. As simple as that.
Why would I “waste precious newsprint, time and keystrokes panning a 1962 movie that is critically acclaimed”? Because we’re all about expressing our feelings here. Critically acclaimed or universally panned, it’s a very famous movie (and book), so I don’t see why it’s so surprising that I’ve written about it. Besides, books, movies etc…all this is what we’re supposed to write about in the Arts section!
I feel so futile. After writing an entire article to explain my reasons for not liking the movie, it’s so easy for you to say it sounds like a case of “I don’t like it because I am different”. I’m not even going to bother.
ishita on May 15th, 2008 at 12:01 am |
First of all i think you are reacting quite strongly to my opinions, let me just make it clear that my intention was not to attack you per se, and by your reply, i am now aware of your views, and appreciate them even if i dont necessarily agree with them. My only point for contention being that as a reporter/student journalist, i think its the writers responsibility not to make sweeping statements without giving substansive arguments to back it up. I m sure if you, just read my comment and weigh them in a neutral light, you will understand what i meant by taking offence(for lack of a better word), to your “dull” n “lifeless” statement
Aishwarya on May 15th, 2008 at 4:04 am |
Well, I’m sorry if you felt I was “reacting strongly”; that was not my intention. Merely explaining my side of the story. But you’re still missing one little point here; I didn’t make any sweeping statements! I didn’t say “American literature is dull and lifeless”, I said to me it seems so. I was careful to make that distinction, to make it clear that this is just my opinion. I don’t see how or why you should find that offensive, that’s all.
Vineet on May 15th, 2008 at 11:15 pm |
“Why would I compare it to the book? Because it’s based on the book. As simple as that.”
Not one to appreciate artistic interpretation, are you?
There’s a saying in hindi that goes, “meri murgi ki ek hi taang”. Well, my dear, too bad you’ll never have company at Thanksgiving.
“Why would I “waste precious newsprint, time and keystrokes panning a 1962 movie that is critically acclaimed”? Because we’re all about expressing our feelings here.”
Erm, I didn’t know we were sharing. My dog didn’t die. So I’m not crying.
The article seems an attack on a classic, and I do hate that term, but this movie was actually good enough. Also, isn’t it a little redundant to express your views in melancholy strains about the film that was made in 1962.
“…all this is what we’re supposed to write about in the Arts section!”
If that is a statement alluding to the lack of Art in any way, means or form in the modern age, my sympathies lie with your circumstance.
Aishwarya on May 15th, 2008 at 11:24 pm |
“Not one to appreciate artistic interpretation, are you?”
Nope.
“Erm, I didn’t know we were sharing. My dog didn’t die. So I’m not crying.”
Har-de-har.
Honestly, I don’t see what your problem is. You think it’s a good movie, I think it isn’t. Isn’t it rather childish of you to stretch out this argument? Live and let live, man. And so what if the movie was made in 1962? As you said, it IS a classic, so there’s nothing wrong with reviewing it afresh. If you’re not interested in reading reviews of 45-year-old movies, don’t. Nobody’s forcing you.
“If that is a statement alluding to the lack of Art in any way, means or form in the modern age, my sympathies lie with your circumstance.”
It isn’t. Don’t waste your sympathy.
Vineet on May 15th, 2008 at 11:28 pm |
Woop-te-doodle-fucking-doo!
You get it! I did what you did, stretch the argument. Senseless articles about movies made so far back in time, forced out of your keyboard.
“If you’re not interested in reading reviews of 45-year-old movies, don’t. Nobody’s forcing you.”
Well, no one really forced you to watch the movie.
Like I said, just my two cents, they’re free.
Vineet on May 15th, 2008 at 11:29 pm |
Woop-te-doodle-fucking-doo!
You get it! I did what you did, stretch the argument. Senseless articles about movies made so far back in time, forced out of your keyboard.
“If you’re not interested in reading reviews of 45-year-old movies, don’t. Nobody’s forcing you.”
Well, no one really forced you to watch the movie.
Like I said, just my two cents, they’re free.
Aishwarya on May 15th, 2008 at 11:31 pm |
I wouldn’t have bothered arguing if it wasn’t my article. Sheesh. Bored much?
Nope, no one forced me to watch the movie. But since I am a writer, I’ve got to write about something. I wrote about this. End of story.
Vineet on May 15th, 2008 at 11:43 pm |
And since I am a human being, I make sarcastic remarks about chavs.
End of story.
Aishwarya on May 15th, 2008 at 11:59 pm |
Oh boohoo. Be mature enough to walk away with some dignity instead of staying to insult me merely because my opinions happen to differ from yours.
Shayoni on May 16th, 2008 at 12:46 am |
Whatever happened to acceptance of criticism?
Pray, don’t let this hinder your articulate progress in the field of “Art” writing, yeah?
Aishwarya on May 16th, 2008 at 12:57 am |
I suppose acceptance of criticism went right out the window along with common courtesy and respect for other people’s opinions.
Seriously, what is the big deal? I didn’t like the movie, he did. You might have. I don’t know. Does it matter? Merely expressing an opinion here. You’re entitled to disagree.
Constructive criticism I can handle, of my writing or of the content of my articles. But this whole “no, I’m right, you’re wrong, I’m smart, you’re stupid” argument is just worthless.
Aishwarya on May 16th, 2008 at 1:07 am |
Egad. I see it was a mistake to reply to the comments. Shall not do so from now. One lives and learns. =)
Aishwarya Jha on May 16th, 2008 at 3:06 pm |
Whoa, whoa, whoa…hold it! Those comments aren’t from me! Looks like someone’s been using my name and, it seems, one of my e-mail addresses as well to write stuff on my behalf. I didn’t even know this article was up! Haven’t been on the site for a while. Sorry for the confusion, everyone, but I didn’t write all that. I’m going to try and get it deleted. This is outrageous!
ishita on May 16th, 2008 at 9:13 pm |
well….u have got us confused,please explain more clearly
Aishwarya Jha on May 16th, 2008 at 9:22 pm |
All the comments before the one I wrote today at 3:06 PM were not written by me, just by someone using my name. I had no idea this article was up on the site. I would REALLY appreciate it if you could all just forget the whole thing. You’re free to criticize/praise/discuss my article, of course, but please just ignore that whole thread! I’m really sorry for all the confusion. But from the person’s last post, it seems like he/she won’t bother us anymore…I hope.